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SEASON: 1908-09

Prev Season: 1907-08
This Season: 1908-09
Next Season: 1909-10

DIVISION:: English First Division (Tier 1)
MANAGER(s):: Harry Haslam
FA Cup:: Quarter Final (Derby County (A) 0-3)
League Cup:: Did not exist

Top Goalscorer:: Enoch West (25 goals)

LEAGUE POSITIONS

SEASON END TABLE

FIRST DIVISION (Tier 1) - 1908-09								Home					Away								Results
Pos	Team	P	W	D	L	F	A	W	D	L	F	A	W	D	L	F	A	GD	Pts	Result	Home	Away
1	Newcastle United	38	24	5	9	65	41	14	1	4	32	20	10	4	5	33	21	1.58537	53		0-4	1-1
2	Everton	38	18	10	10	82	57	11	3	5	51	28	7	7	5	31	29	1.43860	46		1-2	3-3
3	Sunderland	38	21	2	15	78	63	14	0	5	41	23	7	2	10	37	40	1.23810	44		4-0	1-2
4	Blackburn Rovers	38	14	13	11	61	50	6	6	7	29	26	8	7	4	32	24	1.22000	41		2-1	3-0
5	The Wednesday	38	17	6	15	67	61	15	0	4	48	24	2	6	11	19	37	1.09836	40		1-2	0-3
6	Woolwich Arsenal	38	14	10	14	52	49	9	3	7	24	18	5	7	7	28	31	1.06122	38		0-1	2-1
7	Aston Villa	38	14	10	14	58	56	8	7	4	31	22	6	3	10	27	34	1.03571	38		1-2	2-1
8	Bristol City	38	13	12	13	45	58	7	7	5	24	25	6	5	8	21	33	.77586	38		1-1	1-2
9	Middlesbrough	38	14	9	15	59	53	11	2	6	38	21	3	7	9	21	32	1.11321	37		4-1	0-4
10	Preston North End	38	13	11	14	48	44	8	7	4	29	17	5	4	10	19	27	1.09091	37		1-1	1-1
11	Chelsea	38	14	9	15	56	61	8	7	4	33	22	6	2	11	23	39	.91803	37		2-1	1-2
12	Sheffield United	38	14	9	15	51	59	9	5	5	31	25	5	4	10	20	34	.86441	37		0-2	2-1
13	Manchester United	38	15	7	16	58	68	10	3	6	37	33	5	4	10	21	35	.85294	37		2-0	2-2
14	Nottingham Forest	38	14	8	16	66	57	9	2	8	39	24	5	6	8	27	33	1.15789	36
15	Notts County	38	14	8	16	51	48	9	4	6	31	23	5	4	10	20	25	1.06250	36		1-0	0-3
16	Liverpool	38	15	6	17	57	65	9	5	5	36	25	6	1	12	21	40	.87692	36		5-1	1-1
17	Bury	38	14	8	16	63	77	9	6	4	35	27	5	2	12	28	50	.81818	36		0-2	2-3
18	Bradford City	38	12	10	16	47	47	7	6	6	27	20	5	4	10	20	27	1.00000	34		2-1	1-1
19	Manchester City	38	15	4	19	67	69	12	3	4	50	23	3	1	15	17	46	.97101	34	Relegated	0-2	1-2
20	Leicester Fosse	38	8	9	21	54	102	6	6	7	32	41	2	3	14	22	61	.52941	25	Relegated	12-0	3-0

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Competitive Games:: 42
Competitive Goals:: 72
Goals per game:: 1.7
League Games:: 38
League Points:: 36 out of 76 (2 points per win)
Points Percentage:: 47.4%

GOALS
Goals scored, conceded and win and loss margins

Goal count:	1 goal	2 goals	3 goals	4 goals	5+ goals
Scored	15 times	10 times	4 times	2 times	2 times
Conceded	16 times	11 times	5 times	2 times
Won By	8 times	3 times	3 times	2 times	1 time
Lost By	9 times	3 times	3 times	2 times

LEAGUE POSITION ANALYSIS
Analysis of the league positions
This table shows:
(a) how many days we spent in each of the league positions
(b) how we did when we played teams in each of the league positions.

Position days		Record against teams in each position
Forest Pos	Num Days	Opp Pos	P	W	D	L	F	A	Points	Results (Green=win; Blue=draw; Red=loss)
1		1	2	-	1	1	2	3	1	Everton (1-2), Newcastle United (1-1)
2		2	1	-	1	-	3	3	1	Everton (3-3)
3		3	3	-	1	2	2	9	1	Manchester United (2-2), Newcastle United (0-4), The Wednesday (0-3)
4		4	3	3	-	-	9	2	6	Sheffield United (2-1), Liverpool (5-1), Manchester United (2-0)
5	7	5	3	2	-	1	7	3	4	The Wednesday (1-2), Aston Villa (2-1), Sunderland (4-0)
6	14	6	3	2	1	-	6	2	5	Liverpool (1-1), Notts County (1-0), Middlesbrough (4-1)
7	12	7	2	1	1	-	3	2	3	Chelsea (2-1), Preston North End (1-1)
8	9	8	1	-	1	-	1	1	1	Bristol City (1-1)
9	7	9	1	-	-	1	1	2	0	Chelsea (1-2)
10	9	10	1	-	-	1	0	2	0	Manchester City (0-2)
11	8	11	4	1	-	3	4	6	2	Sunderland (1-2), Woolwich Arsenal (0-1), Bristol City (1-2), Blackburn Rovers (2-1)
12	15	12	1	1	-	-	3	0	2	Blackburn Rovers (3-0)
13	6	13	2	1	-	1	3	2	2	Leicester Fosse (3-0), Sheffield United (0-2)
14	9	14	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
15	29	15	1	1	-	-	2	1	2	Woolwich Arsenal (2-1)
16	9	16	3	-	1	2	3	5	1	Aston Villa (1-2), Preston North End (1-1), Manchester City (1-2)
17	71	17	1	-	-	1	0	4	0	Middlesbrough (0-4)
18	31	18	3	-	-	3	2	8	0	Notts County (0-3), Bury (2-3), Bury (0-2)
19	5	19	1	-	1	-	1	1	1	Bradford City (1-1)
20		20	2	2	-	-	14	1	4	Bradford City (2-1), Leicester Fosse (12-0)

ATTENDANCES (HOME)

Highest League Attendance:: 19,000 (Chelsea)
Lowest League Attendance:: 5,000 (Leicester Fosse)
Average League Attendance:: 10,947
Highest Cup Attendance:: 20,000 (Millwall)
Lowest Cup Attendance:: 14,000 (Aston Villa)

MISCELLANEOUS

Clean Sheets:: 8
Yellow cards:: 0
Red cards:: 1
Own goals (for):: 1 (scored by opponents for us)
Own goals (against):: 0 (scored by us for opponents)
Penalties scored:: 0
Penalties conceded:: 0
Penalties missed:: 1
Penalties saved:: 0

GAMES

Manager for all games: Harry Haslam
League

Week	Date	Opponent	H/A	Score	Result	Att	Pos	Scorers
1	Sat Sep 05, 1908	Sheffield United	A	2-1	Win	16,000	7	Marrison (?), West (?)
2	Sat Sep 12, 1908	Aston Villa	H	1-2	Loss	17,000	12	Hooper (?)
3	Sat Sep 19, 1908	The Wednesday	H	1-2	Loss	10,000	15	Morris (?)
4	Mon Sep 21, 1908	Chelsea	A	1-2	Loss	20,000	15	Marrison (?)
5	Sat Sep 26, 1908	Sunderland	A	1-2	Loss	18,000	19	Green (?)
6	Thu Oct 01, 1908	Liverpool	H	5-1	Win	10,000	13	Hooper (?, ?), West (?), Morris (?, ?)
7	Sat Oct 03, 1908	Chelsea	H	2-1	Win	19,000	11	Morris (?), Birch (?)
8	Sat Oct 10, 1908	Blackburn Rovers	A	3-0	Win	15,000	7	Marrison (?), West (?, ?)
9	Sat Oct 17, 1908	Bradford City	H	2-1	Win	10,000	6	West (?), Morris (?)
10	Sat Oct 24, 1908	Manchester United	A	2-2	Draw	15,000	5	Marrison (?), Birch (?)
11	Sat Oct 31, 1908	Everton	H	1-2	Loss	15,000	8	West (?)
12	Sat Nov 07, 1908	Leicester Fosse	A	3-0	Win	20,000	6	Hooper (?, ?), Marrison (?)
13	Sat Nov 14, 1908	Woolwich Arsenal	H	0-1	Loss	10,000	9
14	Sat Nov 21, 1908	Notts County	A	0-3	Loss	14,000	10
15	Sat Nov 28, 1908	Newcastle United	H	0-4	Loss	10,000	12
16	Sat Dec 05, 1908	Bristol City	A	1-2	Loss	7,000	15	Green (?)
17	Sat Dec 12, 1908	Preston North End	H	1-1	Draw	8,000	14	Green (?)
18	Sat Dec 19, 1908	Middlesbrough	A	0-4	Loss	10,000	16
19	Fri Dec 25, 1908	Bury	A	2-3	Loss	14,000	18	Morris (?, ?)
20	Sat Dec 26, 1908	Liverpool	A	1-1	Draw	25,000	17	Whitchurch (?)
21	Mon Dec 28, 1908	Manchester City	H	0-2	Loss	12,000	17
22	Sat Jan 02, 1909	Sheffield United	H	0-2	Loss	10,000	17
23	Sat Jan 09, 1909	Aston Villa	A	2-1	Win	18,000	17	Marrison (?), West (?)
24	Sat Jan 23, 1909	The Wednesday	A	0-3	Loss	8,000	17
25	Sat Jan 30, 1909	Sunderland	H	4-0	Win	10,000	17	Hughes (?), Marrison (?), West (?, ?)
26	Sat Feb 13, 1909	Blackburn Rovers	H	2-1	Win	10,000	17	Marrison (?), West (?)
27	Sat Feb 27, 1909	Manchester United	H	2-0	Win	6,000	17	Marrison (?), West (?)
28	Sat Mar 20, 1909	Woolwich Arsenal	A	2-1	Win	10,000	17	West (?, ?)
29	Wed Mar 24, 1909	Everton	A	3-3	Draw	1,500	16	Marrison (?), West (?, ?)
30	Sat Mar 27, 1909	Notts County	H	1-0	Win	14,000	15	West (?)
31	Tue Mar 30, 1909	Bradford City	A	1-1	Draw	8,000	14	Whitchurch (?)
32	Sat Apr 03, 1909	Newcastle United	A	1-1	Draw	30,000	15	Morris (?)
33	Sat Apr 10, 1909	Bristol City	H	1-1	Draw	10,000	15	Gilligan (? OG)
34	Mon Apr 12, 1909	Bury	H	0-2	Loss	14,000	17
35	Tue Apr 13, 1909	Manchester City	A	1-2	Loss	3,000	17	Needham (?)
36	Sat Apr 17, 1909	Preston North End	A	1-1	Draw	4,000	18	West (?)
37	Wed Apr 21, 1909	Leicester Fosse	H	12-0	Win	5,000	13	Hughes (?), Hooper (?, ?, ?), West (?, ?, ?), Morris (?, ?), Spouncer (?, ?, ?)
38	Sat Apr 24, 1909	Middlesbrough	H	4-1	Win	8,000	10	Hughes (?), West (?, ?), Morris (?)

FA Cup

Date	Opponent	Round	H/A	Score	Result	Att	Scorers
Sat Jan 16, 1909	Aston Villa	1	H	2-0	Win	14,000	Hooper (?), Spouncer (?)
Sat Feb 06, 1909	Brentford	2	H	1-0	Win	16,000	West (?)
Sat Feb 20, 1909	Millwall	3	H	3-1	Win	20,000	Hooper (?), West (?, ?)
Sat Mar 13, 1909	Derby County	Quarter	A	0-3	Loss	16,000

Friendly

Date	Opponent	Country	H/A	Score	Result	Att	Scorers
Tue Sep 15, 1908	Bradford Park Avenue	England	A	2-1	Win	-	Shearman (?), West (?)

Date	Game Type	Opponent	Round	H/A	Score	Att	Scorers
Manager: Harry Haslam
Sat Sep 05, 1908	League Tier 1	Sheffield United		A	2-1	16,000	Marrison (?), West (?)
Sat Sep 12, 1908	League Tier 1	Aston Villa		H	1-2	17,000	Hooper (?)
Tue Sep 15, 1908	Friendly	Bradford Park Avenue		A	2-1	-	Shearman (?), West (?)
Sat Sep 19, 1908	League Tier 1	The Wednesday		H	1-2	10,000	Morris (?)
Mon Sep 21, 1908	League Tier 1	Chelsea		A	1-2	20,000	Marrison (?)
Sat Sep 26, 1908	League Tier 1	Sunderland		A	1-2	18,000	Green (?)
Thu Oct 01, 1908	League Tier 1	Liverpool		H	5-1	10,000	Hooper (?, ?), West (?), Morris (?, ?)
Sat Oct 03, 1908	League Tier 1	Chelsea		H	2-1	19,000	Morris (?), Birch (?)
Sat Oct 10, 1908	League Tier 1	Blackburn Rovers		A	3-0	15,000	Marrison (?), West (?, ?)
Sat Oct 17, 1908	League Tier 1	Bradford City		H	2-1	10,000	West (?), Morris (?)
Sat Oct 24, 1908	League Tier 1	Manchester United		A	2-2	15,000	Marrison (?), Birch (?)
Sat Oct 31, 1908	League Tier 1	Everton		H	1-2	15,000	West (?)
Sat Nov 07, 1908	League Tier 1	Leicester Fosse		A	3-0	20,000	Hooper (?, ?), Marrison (?)
Sat Nov 14, 1908	League Tier 1	Woolwich Arsenal		H	0-1	10,000
Sat Nov 21, 1908	League Tier 1	Notts County		A	0-3	14,000
Sat Nov 28, 1908	League Tier 1	Newcastle United		H	0-4	10,000
Sat Dec 05, 1908	League Tier 1	Bristol City		A	1-2	7,000	Green (?)
Sat Dec 12, 1908	League Tier 1	Preston North End		H	1-1	8,000	Green (?)
Sat Dec 19, 1908	League Tier 1	Middlesbrough		A	0-4	10,000
Fri Dec 25, 1908	League Tier 1	Bury		A	2-3	14,000	Morris (?, ?)
Sat Dec 26, 1908	League Tier 1	Liverpool		A	1-1	25,000	Whitchurch (?)
Mon Dec 28, 1908	League Tier 1	Manchester City		H	0-2	12,000
Sat Jan 02, 1909	League Tier 1	Sheffield United		H	0-2	10,000
Sat Jan 09, 1909	League Tier 1	Aston Villa		A	2-1	18,000	Marrison (?), West (?)
Sat Jan 16, 1909	FA Cup	Aston Villa	1	H	2-0	14,000	Hooper (?), Spouncer (?)
Sat Jan 23, 1909	League Tier 1	The Wednesday		A	0-3	8,000
Sat Jan 30, 1909	League Tier 1	Sunderland		H	4-0	10,000	Hughes (?), Marrison (?), West (?, ?)
Sat Feb 06, 1909	FA Cup	Brentford	2	H	1-0	16,000	West (?)
Sat Feb 13, 1909	League Tier 1	Blackburn Rovers		H	2-1	10,000	Marrison (?), West (?)
Sat Feb 20, 1909	FA Cup	Millwall	3	H	3-1	20,000	Hooper (?), West (?, ?)
Sat Feb 27, 1909	League Tier 1	Manchester United		H	2-0	6,000	Marrison (?), West (?)
Sat Mar 13, 1909	FA Cup	Derby County	Quarter	A	0-3	16,000
Sat Mar 20, 1909	League Tier 1	Woolwich Arsenal		A	2-1	10,000	West (?, ?)
Wed Mar 24, 1909	League Tier 1	Everton		A	3-3	1,500	Marrison (?), West (?, ?)
Sat Mar 27, 1909	League Tier 1	Notts County		H	1-0	14,000	West (?)
Tue Mar 30, 1909	League Tier 1	Bradford City		A	1-1	8,000	Whitchurch (?)
Sat Apr 03, 1909	League Tier 1	Newcastle United		A	1-1	30,000	Morris (?)
Sat Apr 10, 1909	League Tier 1	Bristol City		H	1-1	10,000	Gilligan (? OG)
Mon Apr 12, 1909	League Tier 1	Bury		H	0-2	14,000
Tue Apr 13, 1909	League Tier 1	Manchester City		A	1-2	3,000	Needham (?)
Sat Apr 17, 1909	League Tier 1	Preston North End		A	1-1	4,000	West (?)
Wed Apr 21, 1909	League Tier 1	Leicester Fosse		H	12-0	5,000	Hughes (?), Hooper (?, ?, ?), West (?, ?, ?), Morris (?, ?), Spouncer (?, ?, ?)
Sat Apr 24, 1909	League Tier 1	Middlesbrough		H	4-1	8,000	Hughes (?), West (?, ?), Morris (?)

TRANSFERS
Transfers before, during and immediately after the season.

In (2) - £0				Out (4) - £0
Date	Player	Details	Fee	Date	Player	Details	Fee
	Fred Rowan	Bought			Arthur Green	Sold
May 01, 1908	William Birch	Bought			Harry Linacre	Retired
					William Shearman	Sold
				Dec 28, 1908	William Birch	Sold

SQUAD

				Season Record (Competitive Games only)
Pos	Num	Country	Player	P	W	D	L	Goals	Yellows	Reds	Went Off	Came On	Unused Sub	Notes
Goalkeepers
GK		England	Harry Linacre	34	14	4	16
Defenders
D		Wales	Edwin Hughes	41	16	8	17	3
D		England	James Iremonger	8	3	4	1
Midfielders
M		England	George Maltby	36	15	5	16
M			George Wolfe	26	7	7	12
M			Richard Butler	1	1
M		Scotland	Thomas Gibson	7	2	3	2
M		England	Walter Dudley	42	17	8	17
M			William Shearman	2		1	1
Forwards
F		England	Alf Spouncer	24	12	6	6	4
F		Wales	Arthur Green	6		2	4	3
F		England	Bill Hooper	41	17	8	16	10
F		England	Enoch West	38	17	5	16	25		1
F			Fred Rowan	1			1
F		England	George Needham	16	10	1	5	1
F		Wales	Grenville Morris	37	15	6	16	11
F			Herbert Whitchurch	8	2	3	3	2
F		England	Jack Armstrong	41	17	8	16
F		England	Thomas Marrison	40	17	7	16	10
F		England	William Birch	13	5	2	6	2

GOALSCORERS

Competitive goals only

Goals (Pens)	Player	Games
25	Enoch West	38
11	Grenville Morris	37
10	Bill Hooper	41
10	Thomas Marrison	40
4	Alf Spouncer	24
3	Arthur Green	6
3	Edwin Hughes	41
2	Herbert Whitchurch	8
2	William Birch	13
1	George Needham	16
1	Own Goals	42

LEAGUE DOUBLES (FOR)
Home and away victories for the season

	Game 1			Game 2
Opponent	Date	H/A	Score	Date	H/A	Score
Blackburn Rovers	Sat Oct 10, 1908	Away	3-0	Sat Feb 13, 1909	Home	2-1
Leicester Fosse	Sat Nov 07, 1908	Away	3-0	Wed Apr 21, 1909	Home	12-0

LEAGUE DOUBLES (AGAINST)
Home and away losses for the season

	Game 1			Game 2
Opponent	Date	H/A	Score	Date	H/A	Score
Bury	Fri Dec 25, 1908	Away	2-3	Mon Apr 12, 1909	Home	0-2
Manchester City	Mon Dec 28, 1908	Home	0-2	Tue Apr 13, 1909	Away	1-2
The Wednesday	Sat Sep 19, 1908	Home	1-2	Sat Jan 23, 1909	Away	0-3